D.N.C. Sues McCain Over Campaign Loan

News Type: Event — Seeded on Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:25 PM EDT

Article Source: The New York Times

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The Democratic National Committee filed suit today in U.S. District Court in Washington challenging Senator John McCain's decision to opt out of the federal public financing system in his primary race.

In an ongoing — and complicated — drama between the D.N.C. and Mr. McCain, the Democratic committee said that Mr. McCain should not have been permitted to forgo federal funds in his primary race since he had used the promise of receiving those funds as collateral for a bank loan to his campaign.

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{"commentId":2041663,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}

Double Demon

HA! Maybe this timing was planned, could the Democrats really be that sneaky? Having Obama drop out, expecting McCain's response, and then filing this case? McCain could very well have broken the law, this is not a frivolous case as the RNC asserts.

For an interesting analysis check out my article on this case HERE.

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4 votes

#1 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:37 PM EDT

{"commentId":2041773,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}

arcanebliss

I really can't wait to see how this pans out.

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5 votes

#1.1 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT

{"commentId":2041792,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}

Double Demon

I hope McCain gets caught up in this big time. I don't know why this isn't bigger news.

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4 votes

#1.2 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:54 PM EDT

{"commentId":2041804,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}

arcanebliss

Because folks are busy being all ruffled up over non-issues like campaign symbols and pledges Obama never signed.

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5 votes

#1.3 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:56 PM EDT

{"commentId":2041957,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}

Double Demon

lol

Have you checked out that mole fest over there on the Dobson article? There are over 400 comments on two articles about Dobson. What is the deal?

Are these the bloggers that McCain and the RNC have unleashed to attack the blogs with this crap?

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5 votes

#1.4 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:22 PM EDT

{"commentId":2041999,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}

arcanebliss

No, if I look at it - I'll end up replying to every comment. =[

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5 votes

#1.5 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:28 PM EDT

{"commentId":2042037,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}

Double Demon

Yeah, I just posted a link on there to the Reuters article from February where Dobson dissed McCain! I hope that he convinces all of the Christian Conservatives to stay home on Election Day!

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5 votes

#1.6 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:33 PM EDT

{"commentId":2044541,"authorDomain":"kingmarty"}

kingmarty

Stay away from the Dobson articles. It's all a bunch of psychos talking IN ALL CAPS about how Obama is either a secret Muslim or a Marxist Militant Christian. Even though that last one doesn't make sense, since in Marxism there is no God.

There Dobson supporters started coming out of the wood works and when you (as I did) point out that Dobson does the same stuff that he's claiming Obama has done they either ignore it, or go back the the Marxist b.s.

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4 votes

#1.7 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:10 AM EDT

{"commentId":2042827,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}

Roy Batty

So he made a promise to the bank he didn't keep. So what?

I'm pretty sure all the promises he's making us ... he'll keep.

hahahahahahahaha.

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4 votes

#2 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:46 PM EDT

{"commentId":2043343,"authorDomain":"superman2001"}

Superman2001

That's why I'm working on this $300 million dollar car battery ... in my garage.

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4 votes

#2.1 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:40 AM EDT

{"commentId":2046056,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}

Double Demon

So he made a promise to the bank he didn't keep. So what?

Well, the issue is that this security he promised to the Bank may have created an obligation, under FEC Rules, that he accept the Public Financing System money rather than withdraw from it. That is what is being litigated.

It has more to do with the LAW than the Bank. Certainly the bank can lend anyone any amount of money it sees fit to lend to, and can sue for fraud when it feels it is necessary, which it might have a case here if McCain fails to repay the loan, but that is a collateral issue to what is being litigated.

The litigation involves whether or not McCain broke the FEC rules that he holds so near and dear to his heart, allegedly. He helped create these rules and now he is going to break them!?? That's the issue.

On top of that, he has the audacity to scold Obama over the same issue? At least Obama was never in danger of breaking the Law when he decided to Opt out.

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4 votes

#2.2 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:28 PM EDT

{"commentId":2046152,"authorDomain":"chum"}

Chum

Double Demon, I assumed Roy Batty was being sarcastic. But nice response.

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4 votes

#2.3 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:39 PM EDT

{"commentId":2046991,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}

Roy Batty

I was being sarcastic. But Double Demon explained the facts succinctly. Nice.

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5 votes

#2.4 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:55 PM EDT

{"commentId":2047232,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}

Double Demon

I figured sarcasm was at play, even in Superman's case, but I wanted to make sure people didn't take it the wrong way, or misunderstand the issue here.

Thanks for the compliments.

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3 votes

#2.5 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:14 PM EDT

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